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	<title>Comments on: Draft Nimbus Spec Released</title>
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		<title>By: Jasper Potts</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/03/draft-nimbus-spec-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1893</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try setting &quot;nimbusOrange&quot; ui default property, see http://jasperpotts.com/blogfiles/nimbusdefaults/nimbus.html for list of things you can set. On how to set http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2008/08/nimbus-uimanager-uidefaults/ and the comments for trouble shooting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try setting &#8220;nimbusOrange&#8221; ui default property, see <a href="http://jasperpotts.com/blogfiles/nimbusdefaults/nimbus.html" rel="nofollow">http://jasperpotts.com/blogfiles/nimbusdefaults/nimbus.html</a> for list of things you can set. On how to set <a href="http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2008/08/nimbus-uimanager-uidefaults/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2008/08/nimbus-uimanager-uidefaults/</a> and the comments for trouble shooting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaana</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/03/draft-nimbus-spec-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1892</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But is it possible to change the orange color of progressbars at all?</description>
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		<title>By: nr</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/03/draft-nimbus-spec-released/comment-page-1/#comment-697</link>
		<dc:creator>nr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 13:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inconsistency: according to the spec page https://nimbus.dev.java.net/spec/index.html

Pressed command-JButton turns BLACK ON DARK GRAY
Pressed default-JButton, JComboBox, JSpinner, JSlider all turn WHITE ON NAVY

Makes me wonder if the command button failed (particularly if the command action isn&#039;t obvious or not immediate).

Also, which will be used for JToggleButton? 

The dark gray could be reserved for the &#039;on&#039; JToggle button, and navy could be used for any control under mouse with selection button down, including the command-JButton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inconsistency: according to the spec page <a href="https://nimbus.dev.java.net/spec/index.html" rel="nofollow">https://nimbus.dev.java.net/spec/index.html</a></p>
<p>Pressed command-JButton turns BLACK ON DARK GRAY<br />
Pressed default-JButton, JComboBox, JSpinner, JSlider all turn WHITE ON NAVY</p>
<p>Makes me wonder if the command button failed (particularly if the command action isn&#8217;t obvious or not immediate).</p>
<p>Also, which will be used for JToggleButton? </p>
<p>The dark gray could be reserved for the &#8216;on&#8217; JToggle button, and navy could be used for any control under mouse with selection button down, including the command-JButton.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/03/draft-nimbus-spec-released/comment-page-1/#comment-649</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 12:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can I download Nimbus L&amp;F</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where can I download Nimbus L&amp;F</p>
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		<title>By: Saeven</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/03/draft-nimbus-spec-released/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Saeven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 15:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

  Work looks fantastic.  I tried applying Nimbus to an existing app of ours for kicks, and unfortunately it fails on JTables with a :

at javax.swing.JTable.setSelectionBackground(Unknown Source)
	at javax.swing.plaf.synth.SynthTableUI.updateStyle(Unknown Source)
	at javax.swing.plaf.synth.SynthTableUI.installDefaults(Unknown Source)
	at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTableUI.installUI(Unknown Source)
	at javax.swing.JComponent.setUI(Unknown Source)
	at javax.swing.JTable.setUI(Unknown Source)
	at javax.swing.JTable.updateUI(Unknown Source)
	at javax.swing.JTable.(Unknown Source)

Seems it&#039;s still a ways away from completion, but I do look forward to the former!  Good luck with the development!!

Alexandre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>  Work looks fantastic.  I tried applying Nimbus to an existing app of ours for kicks, and unfortunately it fails on JTables with a :</p>
<p>at javax.swing.JTable.setSelectionBackground(Unknown Source)<br />
	at javax.swing.plaf.synth.SynthTableUI.updateStyle(Unknown Source)<br />
	at javax.swing.plaf.synth.SynthTableUI.installDefaults(Unknown Source)<br />
	at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTableUI.installUI(Unknown Source)<br />
	at javax.swing.JComponent.setUI(Unknown Source)<br />
	at javax.swing.JTable.setUI(Unknown Source)<br />
	at javax.swing.JTable.updateUI(Unknown Source)<br />
	at javax.swing.JTable.(Unknown Source)</p>
<p>Seems it&#8217;s still a ways away from completion, but I do look forward to the former!  Good luck with the development!!</p>
<p>Alexandre</p>
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		<title>By: Mannix</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/03/draft-nimbus-spec-released/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Mannix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 05:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks good. Please give some consideration to Nitin&#039;s point (2) - why should the Combo box have two little arrows instead of one pointing down? Confuses with JSpinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks good. Please give some consideration to Nitin&#8217;s point (2) &#8211; why should the Combo box have two little arrows instead of one pointing down? Confuses with JSpinner.</p>
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		<title>By: David Browne</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/03/draft-nimbus-spec-released/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>David Browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am just remembering some of Kirill Grouchnikov&#039;s blog postings on the issue, on how most LAFs weren&#039;t dealing very well with RTL.

For menus, see http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kirillcool/archive/2006/02/aligning_menu_i_1.html

For comboboxes, see http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kirillcool/archive/2006/03/rtl_support_in_1.html

In the link for comboboxes, in the comments, there are some pointers to examples of RTL controls.

Anyway, just wanting to make sure that you have all the bases covered.  Great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am just remembering some of Kirill Grouchnikov&#8217;s blog postings on the issue, on how most LAFs weren&#8217;t dealing very well with RTL.</p>
<p>For menus, see <a href="http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kirillcool/archive/2006/02/aligning_menu_i_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kirillcool/archive/2006/02/aligning_menu_i_1.html</a></p>
<p>For comboboxes, see <a href="http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kirillcool/archive/2006/03/rtl_support_in_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kirillcool/archive/2006/03/rtl_support_in_1.html</a></p>
<p>In the link for comboboxes, in the comments, there are some pointers to examples of RTL controls.</p>
<p>Anyway, just wanting to make sure that you have all the bases covered.  Great work!</p>
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		<title>By: jasper</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/03/draft-nimbus-spec-released/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Werner Randelshofer: I have noticed the text positioning on small versions. At the moment these images are just what the original designer has done, we will fix things like that when we implement it.

aronsmith: The gradient images were done by the original designer of Nimbus and are just done by had in Photoshop, nice idea for little Java tool :)

Augusto: There are no plans for themes, there is a branding issue as much a technical one here. FileChooser is a good question, it will depend on what is possible within the time available. I would like a native feel one with Nimbus look but it will probably end up being some variation on metal&#039;s one.

David Browne: There are no specs describing what things look like in Right-To-Left orientation that I have seen. Are there any specific cases you are interested in?

Nitin: This was designed by professional UI designers and is already a GTK theme in the new Solaris. I am working on a Java version of the same design so am limited in what can be changed.

FOCUS is a big question, we are experimenting with this now as it is problematic. So we are not sure how it will come out yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Werner Randelshofer: I have noticed the text positioning on small versions. At the moment these images are just what the original designer has done, we will fix things like that when we implement it.</p>
<p>aronsmith: The gradient images were done by the original designer of Nimbus and are just done by had in Photoshop, nice idea for little Java tool <img src='http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Augusto: There are no plans for themes, there is a branding issue as much a technical one here. FileChooser is a good question, it will depend on what is possible within the time available. I would like a native feel one with Nimbus look but it will probably end up being some variation on metal&#8217;s one.</p>
<p>David Browne: There are no specs describing what things look like in Right-To-Left orientation that I have seen. Are there any specific cases you are interested in?</p>
<p>Nitin: This was designed by professional UI designers and is already a GTK theme in the new Solaris. I am working on a Java version of the same design so am limited in what can be changed.</p>
<p>FOCUS is a big question, we are experimenting with this now as it is problematic. So we are not sure how it will come out yet.</p>
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		<title>By: wahid</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/03/draft-nimbus-spec-released/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>wahid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great work,looking forward to this!</description>
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		<title>By: Sermet Yucel</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/03/draft-nimbus-spec-released/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Sermet Yucel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks great. Looking forward to using it.</description>
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