Comments on: JavaOne 2008 Papers http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/10/javaone-2008-papers/ Jasper Potts's Blog on Java and Life Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:46:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: duncan http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/10/javaone-2008-papers/#comment-1146 duncan Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:31:05 +0000 http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/10/javaone-2008-papers/#comment-1146 Hi Jasper, I am interested in a follow up to the spar talk you gave last year. Your had the insight that osgi plus jide docking is pretty much an rcp long before the current osgi frenzy. I would have posted this on https://spar.dev.java.net/ but I guess that web site requires me to join the project first? I presume it is widely known within Sun that the current web site is really annoying? Anyway, what are your current thoughts on the OSGi Swing approach? Please could you fix up the code so it compiles? It seems like we have JSR296 for easy apps and we have NetBeans and Eclipse at the other extreme but there is a gap in the middle. I doubt NetBeans will ever support osgi and JSR277 is not going to ship for a while. Eclipse is always going to be SWT based. So I think there is a need for another way to architect big Swing apps. I look forward to looking more at Nimbus but my biggest concern has always been how to architect complicated Swing apps. Every time a Swing book comes out it starts with 'this is a JLabel' and after 500 pages you get to 'this is a JTable'. There is never any discussion on how to architect a 500+kloc app. Regards, Duncan Hi Jasper,

I am interested in a follow up to the spar talk you gave last year. Your had the insight that osgi plus jide docking is pretty much an rcp long before the current osgi frenzy.

I would have posted this on https://spar.dev.java.net/ but I guess that web site requires me to join the project first? I presume it is widely known within Sun that the current web site is really annoying?

Anyway, what are your current thoughts on the OSGi Swing approach? Please could you fix up the code so it compiles?

It seems like we have JSR296 for easy apps and we have NetBeans and Eclipse at the other extreme but there is a gap in the middle. I doubt NetBeans will ever support osgi and JSR277 is not going to ship for a while. Eclipse is always going to be SWT based. So I think there is a need for another way to architect big Swing apps.

I look forward to looking more at Nimbus but my biggest concern has always been how to architect complicated Swing apps. Every time a Swing book comes out it starts with ‘this is a JLabel’ and after 500 pages you get to ‘this is a JTable’. There is never any discussion on how to architect a 500+kloc app.

Regards,

Duncan

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