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	<description>Jasper Potts&#039;s Blog on Java and Life</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Whitehead</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2009/05/time-to-close-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-1946</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 07:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man I take that back!!!

I looked over a link you posted earlier, WOW!!!

This thing is very extensible, and looks to be fairly easy.  Hopefully looks aren&#039;t deceiving... ;)

Yes, it is 2:15 in the morn.  I guess OCD has it&#039;s ups and downs....

Thanks again Jasper for the great L&amp;F!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man I take that back!!!</p>
<p>I looked over a link you posted earlier, WOW!!!</p>
<p>This thing is very extensible, and looks to be fairly easy.  Hopefully looks aren&#8217;t deceiving&#8230; <img src='http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, it is 2:15 in the morn.  I guess OCD has it&#8217;s ups and downs&#8230;.</p>
<p>Thanks again Jasper for the great L&amp;F!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Whitehead</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2009/05/time-to-close-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-1945</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 04:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How&#039;s it going Jasper and thanks for the great GUI.

Well almost great.  ;)

I didn&#039;t really know the proper place to post this but just wanted to let you know that I found a problem when using a JSlider.  Basically the situation is when you set paintTrack(false) it does not adhere to that rule.  

You can probably figure out what I was trying to do, without me telling you.  My situation was painting something custom under the thumb without having to dive into the L&amp;F itself, well really it was putting a JProgressBar under the JSlider using a JDesktopPane.  I may try the JLayredPane, but this was for a quick mock up.

Either way, I think I might be easier for me to change L&amp;F to metal for that part of the GUI.  Then come up with a custom thumb, since it doesn&#039;t paint the track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How&#8217;s it going Jasper and thanks for the great GUI.</p>
<p>Well almost great.  <img src='http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really know the proper place to post this but just wanted to let you know that I found a problem when using a JSlider.  Basically the situation is when you set paintTrack(false) it does not adhere to that rule.  </p>
<p>You can probably figure out what I was trying to do, without me telling you.  My situation was painting something custom under the thumb without having to dive into the L&amp;F itself, well really it was putting a JProgressBar under the JSlider using a JDesktopPane.  I may try the JLayredPane, but this was for a quick mock up.</p>
<p>Either way, I think I might be easier for me to change L&amp;F to metal for that part of the GUI.  Then come up with a custom thumb, since it doesn&#8217;t paint the track.</p>
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		<title>By: vsync</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2009/05/time-to-close-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-1824</link>
		<dc:creator>vsync</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about letting users set their own look and feel preferences?

Currently the only way is to set the preference system-wide or pass it on the command line to each application.

If I as a user could set the default look and feel in ~/.java versus in /usr/lib somewhere I would be a happy camper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about letting users set their own look and feel preferences?</p>
<p>Currently the only way is to set the preference system-wide or pass it on the command line to each application.</p>
<p>If I as a user could set the default look and feel in ~/.java versus in /usr/lib somewhere I would be a happy camper.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper Potts</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2009/05/time-to-close-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-1761</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See the code attached at bottom of blog post of table http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2008/08/nimbus-uimanager-uidefaults/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the code attached at bottom of blog post of table <a href="http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2008/08/nimbus-uimanager-uidefaults/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2008/08/nimbus-uimanager-uidefaults/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2009/05/time-to-close-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-1759</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 
I tried to email but I couldn&#039;t get the link to work. I was just wondering if you used some kind of utility to generate the defaults page ? I have something to view defaults, but I like the HTML version better.

http://jasperpotts.com/blogfiles/nimbusdefaults/nimbus.html


Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I tried to email but I couldn&#8217;t get the link to work. I was just wondering if you used some kind of utility to generate the defaults page ? I have something to view defaults, but I like the HTML version better.</p>
<p><a href="http://jasperpotts.com/blogfiles/nimbusdefaults/nimbus.html" rel="nofollow">http://jasperpotts.com/blogfiles/nimbusdefaults/nimbus.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Rhizomorph</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2009/05/time-to-close-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-1730</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhizomorph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI - JSpinner&#039;s do not render correctly under Nimbus when using any SpinnerModel other than the default. Specifically, the outline around the text area of the JSpinner is no longer transparent like it&#039;s supposed to be (the area that is highlighted in blue when the component receives focus).

To reproduce this, place two JSpinners side-by-side on a JPanel that has a black background. Leave one spinner alone, but set the SpinnerModel of the other one to either Number/List/Date etc. You&#039;ll see that the non-default JSpinner is not rendering the same way that the default spinner does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI &#8211; JSpinner&#8217;s do not render correctly under Nimbus when using any SpinnerModel other than the default. Specifically, the outline around the text area of the JSpinner is no longer transparent like it&#8217;s supposed to be (the area that is highlighted in blue when the component receives focus).</p>
<p>To reproduce this, place two JSpinners side-by-side on a JPanel that has a black background. Leave one spinner alone, but set the SpinnerModel of the other one to either Number/List/Date etc. You&#8217;ll see that the non-default JSpinner is not rendering the same way that the default spinner does.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2009/05/time-to-close-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-1696</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;ve got no problem sharing the build I made. Do you want me to mail it to you or will you give me perms to upload it directly to java.net (my user name is iphillips)?

I&#039;ll have a look at the Apple stuff as well, although if it is there obviously I can&#039;t share it due to the NDA :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve got no problem sharing the build I made. Do you want me to mail it to you or will you give me perms to upload it directly to java.net (my user name is iphillips)?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have a look at the Apple stuff as well, although if it is there obviously I can&#8217;t share it due to the NDA <img src='http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jasper Potts</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2009/05/time-to-close-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-1695</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian: If you get to the point you have a Jar and are willing to share then I am happy to give you access to nimbus.dev.java.net and you could put it up there. Also I heard today that a developer preview of Java for Mac OS X 10.5 Update 4 on http://connect.apple.com which is equivalent to 6u13 so will have Nimbus though I have not tested yet my self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian: If you get to the point you have a Jar and are willing to share then I am happy to give you access to nimbus.dev.java.net and you could put it up there. Also I heard today that a developer preview of Java for Mac OS X 10.5 Update 4 on <a href="http://connect.apple.com" rel="nofollow">http://connect.apple.com</a> which is equivalent to 6u13 so will have Nimbus though I have not tested yet my self.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2009/05/time-to-close-the-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-1694</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, done it. It was a little tricky as I needed to download both the Swing forest and the BSD port forest from Mercurial then I could build against a BSD target. I also needed to tell make to ignore errors, as most of Swing failed to build, but that doesn&#039;t really concern me (I just needed it to get as far as running the code-gen stuff). There may be an easier way but I&#039;ve got something to go on for now.

Also, you&#039;ve given me another idea - I&#039;m going to grab the latest developer seed of snow-leopard (via ADC) and see if there&#039;s a new version of Java in there...

Thanks!
Ian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, done it. It was a little tricky as I needed to download both the Swing forest and the BSD port forest from Mercurial then I could build against a BSD target. I also needed to tell make to ignore errors, as most of Swing failed to build, but that doesn&#8217;t really concern me (I just needed it to get as far as running the code-gen stuff). There may be an easier way but I&#8217;ve got something to go on for now.</p>
<p>Also, you&#8217;ve given me another idea &#8211; I&#8217;m going to grab the latest developer seed of snow-leopard (via ADC) and see if there&#8217;s a new version of Java in there&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Ian.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper Potts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasper Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should not be too hard as I did most of my development work on Nimbus on a Mac so have done this a lot. With Java 5 it will be very hard but with Java 6 not too hard. I did the lazy option and took most of Swing including Basic LAF, Synth LAF and Nimbus LAF and built all of them into Jar and ran with -Xbootpath and it worked. Once apple release the next version of Java due with Snow Leopard I think Nimbus should be in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should not be too hard as I did most of my development work on Nimbus on a Mac so have done this a lot. With Java 5 it will be very hard but with Java 6 not too hard. I did the lazy option and took most of Swing including Basic LAF, Synth LAF and Nimbus LAF and built all of them into Jar and ran with -Xbootpath and it worked. Once apple release the next version of Java due with Snow Leopard I think Nimbus should be in there.</p>
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